I got a second LG G5 and I decided I put it through its paces as well versus the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. I only used the main camera on the LG G5 to compare - I can say that the wide angle camera is awesome.
This is how I take my shots for the shootout: Completely 100% auto, no changing of the white balance, no modifying the stops for the exposure. If I were to do that for every shot then each one would be superb. I believe that most people want to take a picture at the moment and whip out their cameras. I mostly shoot in manual mode, but for these tests I stay with 100% automatic with maybe some tap to focus shots just to be able to see what LG and Samsung have implemented into their devices and the software optimizations they have carried out.
In all images the LG G5 is on the left and the S7 Edge is on the right.
As we can see in this image, the G5 captures more of the yellow flowers that are ever so tiny as well as the detail of the leaves. This is mostly due to the amount of megapixels the G5 has over the S7 Edge.
Point to LG G5.
In the same image I just lowered a little bit and you can see the detail on the bricks is much higher and in focus. Usually the S7 Edge is on top in focus, but this wasn't a tap to focus ordeal. Very well done LG G5.
Point to LG G5
The WB on the S7 Edge is a little off here, but that's OK. It's something you can fix in manual mode or even afterwards. Detail is better on the rocks and look more natural while the S7 looks a little over sharpened.
Point to LG G5
In this shot the colors are very well represented but there is something about the ground on the S7 image that looks sharper and better. You can also see the drops of rain on the flower in the center left and they are more in focus as are the bulbs of the flowers.
Point to S7 Edge.
Both of these images came out perfectly but to personal taste I enjoy more the colors and detail of the G5. It may not be as sharp but there is more detail and it looks more artistic. I would send that to print and be very happy with the result as you can see below.
Point to LG G5
General shot. Point to S7
100% crop on this general focus shot, and the S7 nailed it.
But how often do we just take a shot without focusing when pointing it at the only 1 thing that is in front of us? Well, I always tap to focus! So I thought I'd give the G5 a chance to focus and I manually focused both on the face of the statue and the S7 still came out on top even though both shots are very nice.
Point to S7
G5 wins this hands down, the focus and details.
Point to LG G5
A very nice shot. Tie.
Point to LG G5 and S7
100% crop on close and distant objects at the same time, very nice detail for both again. Tie.
Point to LG G5 and S7
In these two shots I tried to focus on the flowers and the S7 Edge was able to do so, but the G5 wasn't! It kept focusing on the floor. I would normally jump into manual mode but since is supposed to be a general shooter with everything on automatic except maybe tapping to focus, I decided to just leave it as is.
Point to S7 and another one for the second shot.
In this shot I'm enjoying the G5 image more.
Point to LG G5
Upon zooming with no touch to focus, I can see that the lamp post isn't as in focus neither are the leaves in the background on the G5. The S7 takes the prize!
Point to S7
Then I tapped to focus on the G5, and got this gorgeous shot. Just because the colors are a little more pleasant of the leaves on the G5 I'd give it a point, but they're both excellent shots so they both get a point!
Point to LG G5 and S7
These gorgeous flowers got a little rain the morning of the shoot and you can see the drops on the right and left, but each phone focused on a different spot.
Point to LG G5 and S7
Another try!
Point to LG G5 and S7
Point to LG G5 and S7. Both images are very well lit, exposed and good white balance.
While I was tempted to give the S7 this point, I decided to give it to the G5 because of those colors and representation. I think the leaves look nicer and less "crinkled" on the yellow flowers. The purple flowers across the bottom left also have a lot of detail over the S7.
Point to LG G5
The detail on those green leaves behind the white flowers are gorgeous in on the S7, but come one, let's be realistic, both shots are FANTASTIC.
Point to S7
I can't decide with this shot.
Point to LG G5 and S7
Both shots are superb. The detail of the bulb and the color of the petals are higher on the G5 but the veins on the S7 are very nice.
Point to LG G5 and S7
Point to LG G5
The G5 crushed the reds, while the S7 Edge handled them better. You can still see the details of each petal while on the G5 it's harder but not impossible.
Point to S7
JPG image is quite similar in this shot. The only real difference is the temperature of the leaves. Here's a close up.
Point to LG G5 and S7
Two very nice shots
Point to LG G5 and S7
Point to S7 due to the detail on the stone bench.
This is probably one of my favorite shots from that morning.
I had to double check that these were different images because they're so crisp and perfect. They're very much in focus and very well developed.
Point to LG G5 and S7. Could I give another set of points for this macro shot? Why not, it's my blog :).
Another point to LG G5 and S7
I really had to pixel peep on this one, the roof of the house on the G5 has more detail than the house of the S7. Also, the window blinds have more detail than the same image of the S7.
Point to LG G5
My moving parrot.
Point to S7 for indoor shots and having him in focus.
For a while I've wanted to try the LG G5.
I didn't fully trust what reviewers were saying, and I for one was always one
to form my own opinion. The LG G5 had a lot of negative publicity since its
initial release in the US. This is now a month later and we are no longer
talking about just a US release, we're talking about a GLOBAL release. This
device has been pushed back a few times while waiting for it here in Spain. I
was afraid of getting the same device that I saw on the internet of the first
batch with all its horrible issues - luckily I didn't have 90% of the issues
and this is a fantastic phone, but it's not perfect, especially considering the
price tag. Let's get right into it then!
Let's get to it!
Specifications
5.3" with on screen buttons QHD screen
Rear mounted power and finger sensor
Side mounted volume rocker vs the rear mounted ones found on the LG G2, G3, G4 and V10.
Snapdragon 820 processor
4GB of Ram
1 rear mounted 16mpx standard camera
1 rear mounted 8 mpx ultra wide angle camera
1 front mounted 8 mpx front facing camera
Removable battery at 2,800 mah capacity
Micro SD card expandability slot, up to 200 gb for when that becomes available.
32gb of internal storage
Build quality
Build quality This device has a decent
build quality -- now, is it worth the 600-700 euro price tag? That's for you to
decide. I am also reviewing the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and that is a very
premium device that, ironically, has had a few price slashes and costs less
than the G5! But for all intents purposes this device isn't built badly, but it
certainly doesn't feel like a premium device due to the choice of materials -
while holding the G5 in the hand it feels … not metal, because the metal is
covered, and not plastic because it's not plastic either - it's a primer.
I liked the LG G4 which was a mix of
leather and plastic, the LG G5 takes a radical change from the previous year,
at least in materials and design. This year, while the LG G5 maintains a
removable battery and expandable storage, it does so while mixing it up a
bunch. It's modular this year. (A lot of people weren't so sure about if it was
going to be a good idea, and only time will tell. As of right now there are
only 2 modules available and depending on the country you're in you might only
have access to one. But we'll get into the modules a little bit later.)
The sides of the device are made of a
metal, as is the body of the phone - but it's not like a traditional metal
phone like the iPhone or an HTC device. It truly is a metallic device that has
been covered with a layer of primer and then coated with another layer of paint
and chips of metal. LG has come on the record to talk about the materials after
having this video go viral:
LG goes on the record and explains everything that can be found on this link.
So, is it well built? Yes. Is it a
premium device in regards to its build quality? No. Not at all. I'm very
surprised they went in this direction, to be honest.
The sides of the device do dig a little
bit in your hand, it's not smooth. It doesn't hurt of course, but if you've
ever played with... well, any other mobile device, this is the complete opposite of any device
in terms of build quality. Even the SIM tray doesn't sit flush into the sides.
When you run your finger up and down
the sim tray adapter it feels like you can file your nails down, or even your
skin if you needed to. This doesn't really bother me, but it certainly doesn't
feel, and here's that special word once again, premium. The same is true about
the lip where the magic slot comes out. The entire lip is easily raised or
lowered every time you run your finger down it. It's like quality control didn't exist for these devices, or that they pushed them out as fast as possible to get it to the market. I personally don't mind since I
usually have a case on my devices, but always for review periods I use them
without anything! In this generation of devices there were two exceptions:
This device, the LG G5 - mostly due to
the fact that I don't want to FEEL the imperfections
You can see the lip on the original device I got.
The Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - due to the
fact that it's made mostly of glass on the front and back and if it were to
fall my heart would stop just a little bit.
UPDATE: I returned my LG G5 for a new
one that came from a newer batch, which took 2
weeks to get out to me, and all the hardware issues with the bubbles of
paint, misalignment of the magic slot, recessed SIM card tray and the harsh
edges have been fixed. I'm very happy with the build quality now. But this
doesn't change the materials they have used
and I'm still worried about long term durability of it with our without
a case - some other people have mentioned that while using a case that really
sticks to the G5, when removing the case it sometimes pulls some of the paint.
Ouch. Hopefully this will not happen.
In all honesty, I don’t know why LG
used this primer on such an expensive device, I can see the price dropping
relatively quickly, and in the 2 weeks it had been out, at least here in Spain,
the price has already dropped from 700 euros to 639 euros to 560 euros.That's a 20% drop in 2 weeks. Now this feels
like a more correct price for the device we have now - super specifications but
lackluster R&D into the materials.
The modules
At the time of this review there are
only two modules that are available for purchase. The B&O audio DAC, which
seems nice, but for the price of the G5 on preorder here in Europe, this 150€
addon should have been included (seeing that the V10 has a very similarly
spec'd DAC built in).
There is also a camera grip that varies
in price radically depending on where you find it. This camera grip adds some
functionality to the device:
It adds a grip to be able to better hold the phone as if it were a camera.
It adds a few buttons: a dual stage camera shooter button which also focuses.
A dedicated video record button
Zoom dial to zoom in and out of the cameras (also, it allows you to switch cameras from the 8 to the 16 and vice versa without having to stop the camera application or recording if that is the case).
An instant launch button to go directly to the camera.
A 1,200 mAH battery which only charges for a minute or so after you press the button and as long as you are using the camera grip it'll continue to either charge your battery, or if your battery is already full, keep the battery full and make the phone draw its power from the grip thereby leaving the phone's internal battery fully charged.
The gripe I have about these modules is
that you have to remove the battery and shut down every single time you want
change. Imagine you want to go out of your hotel with your friend and or
family, you'll either have to leave the grip on thereby making the device
larger permanently, or shut down the phone, and eject the current module and
swap the battery to the camera grip module and then plug it back in and wait
for the device to turn back on. You could also lose one of these modules while exchanging it by leaving it in your bag or have it drop.
Is it a great idea? Sure! But was it
the best implementation? Maybe LG was holding back for the LG G6 for a rather
stellar build quality and mechanism. Only time will tell. Until then, it seems
gimmicky but it could be very useful if you have the money to throw.
The display
The display on this device is
beautiful. It's colorful and saturated, it's incredibly sharp and detailed, and
bright in most situations. While I was doing the camera portion of the review,
which is a little bit lower, I didn't have trouble seeing any of the shots, but
I did have trouble with how bright it was on automatic while I was in a darker
environment while shooting something that wasn't in such a dark environment
such as taking a picture of sunset - the sun is in front of you and darkness
behind. But then again, it wasn't that big of an issue.
The display's glass is thick enough.
Having seen that video, you could imagine that the glass was so thin that you
could make the LCD ripple - and this is not true in the slightest. The screen
is perfect, the thickness is just fine, and there were no issues while using
it.
Another issue that most people liked to
talk about was light bleed. This is something normal with most LCD displays
when you have the brightness cranked up and the background a darker color, like
black. In my case I did have VERY little light bleed.It is hardly noticeable and totally fine.
The screen to body ratio was actually
lowered this year, which might be normal since this is a first generation
device (although, technically, it is a 5th).But the screen was reduced to 5.3" from the 5.5" that was on
the G4 the previous year. At least they kept the same screen resolution. In all
honesty, the screen does feel smaller and noticeable in use in compared to the
G4, or even the Galaxy S7 Edge with its "infinity" display that
bends, giving you the illusion that you're actually holding the display, rather
than the phone itself. I personally like the dimensions of the G5, so this
isn't an issue for me, but I have always been an advocate for larger-screened
phones. Regardless, this screen is beautiful, bright, vibrant, and incredibly
sharp!
The always on display is a feature that
I turned off. I believe it drains far too much battery. LG announced that it
drains 0.8% per hour, so let's round it: 1% an hour. That's 24% of your battery
in 1 day. So, if you don't touch your phone in 1 day, you'll pick it up with,
at the highest, 76% battery the next day. This is ONLY the display and we're
assuming that every other function uses 0 (which isn't true, we're talking
about CPU, radios, processes, email and messages and phone calls).
The Camera
Two reviews- the one word review and
the long review:
The one word review: SUPERB.
The longer version: This is by far the
most important aspect of a phone for me nowadays. Since I had my LG G4 I haven't
carried a point and shoot camera anywhere. The quality will never be the same,
but these phones nowadays have such a great cameras that you can replace your
standard camera with your mobile phones.
Let's get specific: This device shoots
some BEAUTIFUL shots. I'm of course talking about the primary rear 16mpx
camera. In combination to the 16mpx f/1.8 standard camera, which in itself is
an improvement over the LG G4 and V10 in terms of quality, rendering and
lighting, there is also an ultra-wide angled 8mpx camera. The secondary camera
isn't even close to the quality of the 16 in terms of quality (of course) nor
does it take good low light images - but damn these shots are very fun!
The shots are generally speaking
focused, color representation is on the warmer side but are much more realistic
than the Galaxy S7 Edge which I have been using for the past 3 weeks. I have no
doubt that if you don't like the build quality of the G5, the modularity, or
any other aspect: the camera will be the thing that wins you over. I have yet
to find a device on the market that can truly compete with the camera UI,
features and quality.
In regards to speed: it's very fast to
focus, and it gives you a very satisfying sensation when you do lock onto your
subject when you tap on the screen to focus on something. There is only 1 other
phone that is faster than the G5, and that is the Samsung Galaxy S7.
In terms of quality, a lot of people
would like to compare it to the Samsung. In reality, these two devices are very
very good. I would generally give the upper hand to the G5 in terms of low
light, quality of the image, color representation and manual mode. If
photography (and not video) is important to you, then the G5 is your best bet.
I did find that while recording in UHD the OIS was a little bit too wobbly for
my tastes. Also, the bitrate is very good but there are devices on the market
that record in a higher bitrate. Slow motion was good, but there are, once
again, other devices out there that offer more options in terms in FPS.
Let's take a look at some sample shots.
It's very difficult to say something
negative about the camera. It does a very good job. BUT if you were to twist my
arm about the LG G5's camera, I'd have to say that sometimes the pictures aren't
detailed enough and it actually looks like the shots were painted with brush
strokes which actually looks nice. Focus speeds are very good, but not as good
as some other newer technologies, especially in video recording, but they are
very very good. Also, the ability to focus and know that you have focused
correctly with either a red or green square is something that Samsung still
hasn't caught on to - So a big point in favor of the slower yet more accurate
focusing mechanism for LG.
Video recording is improved from last year's LG G4, but it still wobbles and gives a jello effect.
If you'd like to see some comparative
shots check out these links
Audio quality on this phone is very
good, loud and clear compared to most other phones on the market. This year the
LG G5 has a bottom-firing loud speaker, which in my opinion can either be a
fantastic idea or a terrible one depending on each person. The benefit of the
bottom facing speaker rather than the rear facing speaker like on most devices
is that sound isn't muffled while placed on the table. The bad thing about it
is that when you're holding it, and depending on how you hold it, the sound can
be muted by your own palm while playing a game, watching a video or just
holding it in general.
The one real issue I had with this
module is that it rumbles at higher levels all the while feeling a bit cheap
and hollow on the inside. But once again, generally speaking, it sounds better
than the competition. I'd rather have the higher and better sounding quality
and have a little rattle vs having a device that is tinny at higher volumes or
even lower volume.
Wifi Speed
I have a very good internet
connection and a fairly decent router. The LG G5 gets SUPERB data speeds,
especially when referring to downloads. Uploads are nothing special, but also
they are not slow either.
Conclusion
This is a great phone with
fantastic specifications. It provides superb performance and that's on par with
what a device nowadays should be in 2016 - lag is a thing of the past. It even out performs the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge with the Exynos processor inside. The
things that really worry me are the doubts about build quality and durability.
If this device were to fall, it would surely get nicked and the paint layer
would get chipped. Also, from what I've seen others talk about, the glass over
the screen is quite thin and could shatter more easily than other devices like
the iPhone or Samsung S7 and S7 Edge. Battery life isn't the greatest, but
being able to use QC 3.0 (faster than 2.0, naturally) is a plus. There is also
the added benefit of being able to exchange your battery whenever you'd like - still though there is nothing like not needing to charge your device in the middle of the day.
The modules are a little gimmicky but
could be useful to those who. I also have my reservations about seeing how this
module system will hold up in 6 months. There have been several websites
complain about build quality after a few weeks of usage and how the paint would
chip around this end area around the modules (probably from playing around with
the modules so often for their reviews, but regardless this shouldn't be an
issue only a few weeks).
The device is a solid shooter with the camera. I was a huge fan of the LG G4 camera and I am a very big fan of the LG G5 camera. Who is the device really aimed at? If the Samsung devices are aimed at more fashion forward people, I'd guess the G5 is aimed more at the technological people who want to tinker and be able to swap out batteries and geek out! There is even a wide angle lens built into the camera! How awesome is that!?
+Speed of the device
+Wifi speeds
+Camera qulity
+Size and fit in hand (after having the
second unit)
+Modularity could be an awesome future
+Vibrant and crisp display
+Removable battery
+Quick Charge 3.0, faster than 2.0
+Expandable storage
-Battery life isn't that great
-Lack of Wireless charging if that's
important to you, but it isn't to me since it's ALWAYS slower than just
plugging it in and creates more heat. This is in the negative section because
it's always something bad when the company removes a feature that people
generally like
-Display in the sun is lackluster -Durability in the following months is up in the air.
+- Always on Display - while a great
feature, it chews through the battery 25% a day with NO OTHER functionality
going on. This is both bad and good, for those who use it a lot, it's great.
For those of us who don't, it's a battery drain. Point though for being able to
turn it off! +
Well, I sent back the first LG G5 because it had some defects that I didn't like.
Not flush SIM tray.
Unaligned magic slot
Battery life was very sub par
Bubbles under the paint
Now I have a new G5 that is in perfect condition :) I'm a happy camper!
I think on a device that costs as much as this one does you should expect and actually get a device that's perfect. In reality, the LG G5 costs roughly the same as the S7E if you price hunt a little.
I really like both phones. The G5 feels like a traditional phone that's very light. The S7E feels like a piece of art. I wouldn't dream of using either of these phones without a case. For the G5 I have a UAG case, which in my experience have been the best bang for the buck, and for the S7E I have a UAG case and a Supcase Unicorn Beetle case which really makes the phone feels ultra protected, as does the UAG case. But when I publish my case reviews you'll see the difference between them.
Well, one of my most favorite things to do is to really look at the cameras. This is where I am most interested, and I am REALLY having a hard time deciding. Each device has it's own strong points and weak points...
Photography is really important to me, and I think the G5 offers better options, but I am also worried about build quality over time... The Galaxy S7 Edge, if you take care of it, offers superb build quality... and a very very fast camera.
Today I'm taking both cameras out and I'm going to review both shooters with 100% automatic modes, only focusing manually in a secondary shot.
I'm going after the best basic shot. I know with manual mode you can fix everything, but when you're on vacation or you want to capture that shot you won't have time to play with white balance or exposure times...
